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$NVDA

BEARISH2025-11-12
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美股大滑头 · 2025-11-12

$英伟达(NVDA)$ 大家经常喜欢讨论的一件事是「NVDA有没有泡沫」,最近这个讨论伴随着巨头都在发债变得更加热闹起来,有人这样点评,「大科技公司发行的债券需求旺盛,投资者对AI货币化充满信心,巨头完全可以利用强劲的自由现金流来满足AI发展的需求,发债只是在利用良好的市场环境,是实现资金利用的最佳效率问题」。这段话有没有问题,那自然是没问题的,一个生态里不可能每个部分都是泡沫,因为问题并不是出现在巨头发的债里,其实有泡沫的是NBIS/CRWV/ORCL这三家影子概念股。三家公司今年占NVDA营收35%,算上OpenAI的话,这四家公司明年占NVDA营收奔着50%就去了。NBIS和CRWV的利润率才5%左右,现在还是亏损的,ORCL的利润率也就14%左右,后面这三家公司还要不断发债,还把GPU的折旧成本开始按6~7年算,如果没办法提升利润率的话,这里的雷迟早要爆。一旦爆掉,那市场就会充斥着海量的NVDA库存,类似的故事我们在当年比特币矿难时看过。GOOG、AMZN和META这些超级巨头发的债,那肯定没什么风险,这就是正常的企业发债行为,巨头现金流本身强的可怕,债务这点利息不算什么,而且现在发的都是长债,一年利息支出可能也就2%左右,巨头发个100亿美元的债,每年也就2亿美元的利息,这确实是没什么风险。所以,我们简单可以这样拆解下,NVDA有60%的营收是来自超级巨头,这部分营收的现金流和估值都是没有任何泡沫的,但剩下40%的营收都是来自影子股,这里面明显存在很大问题。假如未来出现黑天鹅的时候,NVDA这部分营收腰斩,相当于营收减少20%。那股价会跌多少呢?往往可能是50%。因为市场原本预期你增长50%,结果你出现了负增长,哪怕只是负增长1%,股价可能都会跌30%以上。估值本身就建立在超高增长的预期上,NVDA的市值高达5万亿美元,这不是说NVDA一年可以赚5万亿美元,NVD

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